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North Dakota Series - Nov. 4-5, 2022

  • Saturday, November 05, 2022 2:02 PM
    Message # 12979551
    Anonymous member (Administrator)
    My macro impression from the first game in the series is that this incarnation of North Dakota isn't nearly has tough has previous teams. 

    Omaha had an opportunity to win that game, but there were a number of mistakes. In particular, UNO's lackluster ability to move the puck up the ice (out of our defensive zone) was apparent at various times. Overall, puck handling was sloppy in key moments in our offensive zone. 

    Penalties were key during the Friday game. Some were legit, others were a result of Brad Berry whining. 

    As it regards the overturned goal, Chris pointed out on Twitter that this doesn't look like a particularly egregious instance of goaltender interference by Rollwagen. Granted, it might be the angle, but you don't really much in the way of contact on this video clip (I dunno if a different angle showed anything different, but the reaction of DeRidder doesn't suggest much, if any, contact). 



    As it regards penalties, the one that had fans irritated was a challenge by UND Coach Brad Berry after Ty Farmer got a Game DQ (on the omavs.com box score, it says "game misconduct," but the official specifically said "game disqualification"). The play had already been reviewed by officials for that major penalty, but Berry argued that it should be reviewed again for "contact to the head" by Cameron Berg. 

    They looked at it for a significant amount of time (after having just looked at the play for a considerable amount of time), then said Berg got a Game DQ as well. 

    It's hard to tell, but as Chris points out in this Tweet, it appears that Berg did put a right hook on Farmer. 



    Those moments definitely impacted UNO. 

    I'll also say that I'm not a fan of the change to the NCAA rule regarding faceoffs — specifically that a player who commits a violation in the faceoff circle will receive a warning, and if another violation is committed by that player during the same faceoff, it will result in a bench minor.   

    I preferred it before where a faceoff violation resulted in the player being removed from the faceoff. 

    The argument for the change (in the NCAA rules) was that it would speed up faceoffs. But it hasn't seemed to work. 

    Instead, it seems to take an inordinate amount of time for the linesman to drop the puck in the first place — frustrating fans and (one would presume) the players. 

    Pivonka getting whistled for the second violation at 3:42 in the 2nd (after Berg had just gone to the box to serve a 2 min minor) was not a great situation for the Mavs. 

    We'd just gone down 2-0 (on a PP goal that was the result of a penalty on Tychonick). Thankfully, Gaber went to the box a few moments later for NoDak, but that could have put UNO down 3-0 early in the 2nd. 

    The teams combined for 8 penalties in the first half of the 2nd period. 

    Anyhow... 

    UNO really couldn't get anything going during the game. There was no sustained pressure in the offensive zone. Weiss and Randl really weren't a factor in the matchup. 

    Depending on whether or not those were Game DQ penalties on Berg and Farmer (they called them as such on the ice, but the box score on omavs.com says otherwise at the moment), we could be without a key forward for Saturday's game — and we really can't afford to lose him. 

    We'll see what happens. 
    Last modified: Tuesday, November 08, 2022 1:06 PM | Anonymous member (Administrator)
  • Monday, November 07, 2022 12:06 PM
    Reply # 12981142 on 12979551

    Glad you have found my review to be helpful.

    Please let me know how else I can participate. Willing to go back and look at specific calls or sequences and offer my thoughts.


    Should be easier within the conference schedule. (Might need access to someone's feed/archive for non-con.)

    Last modified: Monday, November 07, 2022 12:07 PM | Anonymous member
  • Monday, November 07, 2022 12:17 PM
    Reply # 12981148 on 12979551

    That was just a bad call. It's obvious that the goaltender was able to collect himself and play position. Put that together with the major on Berg and it seriously impacts the game, and psyche of the players. Saturday play was much better. I am not saying we will be a serious threat, but I do think we can definitely play spoiler. Who know, I could be all wrong. This weekend will tell volumes.

  • Monday, November 07, 2022 12:24 PM
    Reply # 12981158 on 12979551
    MavPuck wrote:

    I'll also say that I'm not a fan of the change to the NCAA rule regarding faceoffs — specifically that a player who commits a violation in the faceoff circle will receive a warning, and if another violation is committed by that player during the same faceoff, it will result in a bench minor. 

    I preferred it before where a faceoff violation resulted in the player being removed from the faceoff. 

    The argument for the change (in the NCAA rules) was that it would speed up faceoffs. But it hasn't seemed to work. 

    Instead, it seems to take an inordinate amount of time for the linesman to drop the puck in the first place — frustrating fans and (one would presume) the players. 

    Pivonka getting whistled for the second violation at 3:42 in the 2nd (after Berg had just gone to the box to serve a 2 min minor) was not a great situation for the Mavs. 


    Some of these violations are not necessarily easy to see -- especially for fans. For once, the NCHC feed had a great angle. You can see Pivonka was trying to time the faceoff, and did the exact same thing twice.

    Basically, he never set (got his stick down) for the faceoff. It was the right call.

    But you're correct that faceoffs have gotten no better.


    I like the rule the DOESN'T remove the center for a violation. And the intent was correct -- it was initiated by the NHL to prevent strategic stalling (usually with a winger lined up at center for an intentional violation) after icing calls, when you couldn't change players. You gain 10-15 seconds of rest. Now it's 3-5 seconds.

    To be clear, the 'face-off violation' rule for Delay of Game has been on the books for a long time. It's always been two violations on the same team at the same faceoff would result in a minor penalty. (And I know Omaha got called for it at least once before the rule change.)

    Sam Spomer used to note on twitter -- and I can back up as a former official -- that once you 'violate' a team on a faceoff, as an official you're advised to get the puck down as quick as possible to avoid the second violation.

    I think the NCHC view on 'cleaning up faceoffs' a couple seasons ago, was to stop the rush. You can take advantage of relaxed enforcement, if you know the impetus is to get the puck down.

    "If you ain't cheating, you ain't trying."

    Bottom line: it's on the players -- not the officials -- to clean up the faceoffs. But a player who isn't trying to gain an advantage is going to draw the ire of their coach.


  • Monday, November 07, 2022 12:27 PM
    Reply # 12981160 on 12981148
    Jim wrote:

    ...psyche of the players.

    Despite how bad Omaha looked in the first -- escaping with a scoreless tie -- then getting blitzed early in the second.

    They had a chance with the disallowed goal. But the momentum, and the energy in the building got sapped.

    Good call by Berry to challenge. Looks like he may have gotten lucky with the decision. (But I can't say definitely until I see the overhead.)

  • Tuesday, November 08, 2022 10:50 AM
    Reply # 12982387 on 12979551

    I think Barry did get lucky, on both calls honestly. But at least on Saturday night they got their backs up. Someone, and I missed who, crushed Kleven in "our" (the shoot twice end) end during the second period. Mancini did, however, do an impression of the 'Flying Wallendas" into our bench!

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