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  • Tuesday, October 18, 2022 5:06 PM
    Reply # 12959018 on 12955551

    Personally, I like ties. If the favorite doesn't have what it takes to dispatch the underdog, why give them another chance. And if you do, why make it some bastardization of the sport? In my 10 minute 5x5 overtime, if the favorite can't get it done in 70 minutes then they don't deserve it. If the Underdog does, then they had more stamina, heart or luck. But play the damn game, not some pick up pond hockey version of it. I am not a fan of the NHL doing it either! Fan preferences be damned, if it was up to them fighting would still dominate the sport for the gladiator lovin' sob's.

  • Tuesday, October 18, 2022 5:27 PM
    Reply # 12959028 on 12955551
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    What irritates me about the 3-on-3 OT is that a win in that period essentially counts as "slightly better" than a tie in terms of the Pairwise Rankings (used to determine NCAA tournament selection/placement) — yet it counts as a win in the NCAA record books. 

    Since this has gone into effect, you'll find fans of bubble teams saying, "But we beat [insert team here] in OT..."

    But the way it is weighted, it's essentially a tie. 

    And while the shootout is exciting, it only has meaning in terms of conference points (it means nothing as it regards the NCAA), and fans get confused thinking their team won (or lost) a game when it goes down as a tie for both teams (since the 3-on-3 period is what determines things).

    So Jim's concept of a 5-on-5, 10-minute OT period to determine the winner or loser (or end in a draw) would be a better method, as far as I am concerned...

  • Tuesday, October 18, 2022 5:34 PM
    Reply # 12959044 on 12955551
    Anonymous member (Administrator)

    I'll add that I thought conference races were more competitive before the structure became: 3 points for a win, 1 point for a tie, 2 points for an OT win, 2 points for a shootout win. 

    At 3 points a pop for a win, a team with early season conference success can sometimes rack up a lead that is basically insurmountable (unless they somehow implode in the second half... which isn't likely). 

    I preferred 2 points for a win (in regulation or OT), 1 point for a tie if no team scores in OT, 0 points for a loss (in regulation or OT). 

  • Tuesday, October 18, 2022 7:07 PM
    Reply # 12959116 on 12955551

    Ed, I don't agree with your assessment in the global view.

    Specifically, soccer. They CAN add extra time. But in Europe, that is reserved for Cup matches that do, in fact, NEED a winner.

    Curling has an easy to attain tiebreaker. An extra end is almost guaranteed to determine a winner -- you don't play for a blank in the 10th or 11th ends. You play for the win and are almost guaranteed it.

    Racing has winners, though what's wrong with a dead heat? Do you want to get me started on why the f*** NAPCAR has PLAYOFFS?

  • Wednesday, October 19, 2022 8:51 AM
    Reply # 12959647 on 12955551

    First you would have to convince me that NASCAR is a real sport and not staged like professional wrestling. 

  • Wednesday, October 19, 2022 8:57 AM
    Reply # 12959666 on 12959647
    Ed wrote:

    First you would have to convince me that NASCAR is a real sport and not staged like professional wrestling. 

    No argument from me, here.
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